Two of you have privately suggested to me (very diplomatically) that perhaps silence is the best response to the accusations about Dr. Jafarey’s degree.  I agree.  Several other folks on the other hand, have urged that silence is tantamount to an admission, and therefore the facts must be made public.

Dr. Jafarey has already proved that each and every one of the many and repeated accusations made against him over the past year, regarding his Zarathushtrian writings, are false, or distortions.   Question is: must he keep spending innumerable hours answering one false accusation after the other - a counterproductive use of time. Where does he draw the line. 

To me this latest accusation should not be dignified with a detailed factual response.  However, in deference to the surprisingly large number of decent folks who have asked that the facts be made known, I will tell you what Dr.  Jafarey has told me.  I have neither the time nor the inclination to dig up corroborative evidence thousands of miles away in Pakistan, or take the depositions under oath of responsible persons at the University of Karachi.

Dr. Jafarey was in the “Muslim College” which was, (or became) a part of the University of Karachi.  His dates of attendance were from 1947 through 1954.  He received a Bachelor of Arts, majoring in English, with Persian as a second language.  He received a Master of Arts in the same Major.  In 1954 he received from the University of Karachi a doctorate, majoring in Persian Language and Literature.  His Ph. D. dissertation was on the book Haji Baba Isfahani, and was regarding the conditions in Iran during the Qajar dynasty.  He got his Ph. D. under Professor Ghulam Sarvar Raja (who was then roughly 50 years old).  Prof. Ghulam Sarvar Raja retired in approx. 1975.  Dr. Jafarey does not know where he might presently be, or whether he is still alive.  Nor does he presently know the whereabouts of any of his other professors or classmates. 

On reflection, I realized to my surprise, that although I am not 80 years old, as Dr. Jafarey is, I also do not know the whereabouts of any of my Professors or classmates,  from college or from law school, other than those who currently practice law in the town where I live. And unlike Dr. Jafarey, I went to college and law school in the same town in which I still now live.

Getting back to Dr. Jafarey, in the days when he was at the Univ. of Karachi, the Shah was very liberal with grants and subsidies to centers of learning which agreed to allow students to select studies in Persian culture and arts.  Dr. Jafarey benefited from that policy, at the University of Karachi.  After receiving his doctorate, he worked as a translator in Teheran for an oil company and other customers. 

>From 1964 through 1980, he worked for the Ministry of Culture and Arts of the govt. of Iran.  It is not likely that he would have been given such a job, if he had misrepresented having a Ph. D in Persian Literature and Language.  As many people know, candidates for government jobs were given very thorough background checks in those days.  Such a background check would have been made by the govt of Iran (with Dr. Jafarey’s permission)  just 10 years after he received his doctorate and therefore would have been more reliable and susceptible of proof than a supposed search made 46 years later in response to a random (?) inquiry.

His first job with the Ministry of Culture and Arts of Iran was as head of Cultural Relations with Afro-Asian Countries.  As a part of his duties, all students studying for doctorates in Persian at the University of Teheran, were under his administrative jurisdiction (although they studied under their respective Profs. who had first level supervision over them).  It is not likely that such authority would have been given to someone who did not himself have a doctorate in Persian language and literature.  

Following that, he was assigned (still as an employee of the Ministry of Culture and Arts of the govt of Iran) to be the founding director of the Iran Pakistan Institute of Persian Studies, in Islamabad, promoting Persian culture in Pakistan and the Indian subcontinent, in which capacity he worked with at least 7 universities in Pakistan - the Universities of Karachi, Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore, Dacca, Chittagong, Sind-Hyderabad, Quetta, and Multan.  During his tenure, the Institute collected more than 8,000 Persian manuscripts, some of which were rare and believed to have been lost.  The Institute has not only published some of these manuscripts, but has printed a full catalogue of its rare library of manuscripts, in which Dr. Jafarey is acknowledged in print. 

Following that, he was appointed Advisor to the Minister (still in the Ministry of Culture and Arts of the govt. of Iran), and was Director General of the Iranian Center for Anthropology.  In 1980, after the Revolution, he was laid off.

As a Zarathushti convert from Islam he left Iran, following the Revolution, on very short notice, with just the clothes on his back.  He did not have time to take any memorabilia of college days, with him. If the University of Karachi truly no longer has a record of his degree, for whatever reason, how would he prove that he attended and received his degree at this late date?  Dr. Jafarey has been in the United States for approx. 20 years.  Why in all that time did his detractors do nothing?   Why have they waited till he is 80 years old, and all his Profs are retired and gone, to make this “public spirited inquiry”?

I have looked at the letter, supposed to have come from someone in the University indicating they have no record that he received a doctorate from the University.  This letter raises more questions than it answers.  For example:

Who made the inquiry to the University?  In what capacity and why?  It is against the law for a University to give out information regarding any person without that person’s written consent (except for law enforcement authorities with a search warrant).  Before knowing the outcome of their search, would the University have undertaken to search the 46 year old records of a potential student regarding his status, without his written consent?  Not likely.  How then was this “search” made?   Unofficially?  And if so, what other “unofficial” acts may have been done?

What questions were asked in the inquiry, that generated the response letter allegedly from the University?  To whom was the inquiry sent?  What records does the University still have going back 46+ years?  Has each student’s complete file been retained, for the past 46 years?  Or does the University just keep a rolodex or index cards of attendees? Are the records of doctoral candidates going back that far kept in a manner that renders the records tamper-proof?   Assuming the University still has the full records of every single student who attended the University going back that far, how and where does the University store its 46+ years worth of records of every single student. Are they in storage boxes in some warehouse?  If so how are they indexed for retrieval?  What retrieval system do they have to conduct searches? 

In Bankruptcy Court (W. Dist. PA) a few years after a case is closed, the records get shipped to a warehouse in Philadelphia.  Anyone wanting to examine an old file has to request the Clerk of the Court to have the file shipped from the warehouse.

In the case of Dr. Jafarey’s records, who had the authority to order and conduct such search?  What kind of a search was made of University records?  Was the search personally made by the person who supposedly wrote that letter for the University?  Or was it made by someone else?  And if by someone else, how would the person writing that letter know that the person making the search searched all pertinent boxes in whichever warehouse(s) such records are stored? Or did he simply report that he could not find anything.  If the records are stored by year, and if Dr. Jafarey attended from 1947 through 1954, they would have had to search seven years worth of records.  (Probably more as they would not have known his date of graduation).  How long did this search take?  Did the person writing that letter have authority from the University to do so?

The injustice inherent in this latest accusation that an 80 year old person lied about a degree received 47 years ago, because someone at the university wrote a letter saying that they could not find mention of it in their old records, must surely be apparent to all - especially to those of us who know how easily records can be unofficially mishandled in India and Pakistan.  All it takes is one willing employee, without the knowledge of responsible officers of the University, who might never even know that the “inquiry” had been made.

It is a mark of Dr. Jafarey’s integrity that he has never used the title “Dr.” in any of his Z publications because (according to him) he does not have a doctorate in Gathic, or Avestan or Zarathushtrian studies and he felt to use the title in his Z publications would give a false impression.  He did however study Avestan under Dr. Maneck Pithawalla, and he studied Gathic and Zarathushtrian studies under Dastur Dhalla, who studied under Jackson.  So his Z qualifications are respectable.

Each of us must decide for ourselves, whether or not we believe this latest accusation.  Under any standard of fairness, a person is innocent until proven guilty.  I have seen no credible proof of guilt.  But what really bothers me is the shabbiness of the process.

Wishing us all the best,

Dina G. McIntyre.

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Subj: Re: [zoroastrians] Quest for Truth
Date: 12/7/2000 10:46:34 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: DINAMCI@aol.com
To:    zoroastrians@listbot.com (zoroastrians)

zoroastrians

Dear Friends,  

Just a quick note: 

Charlotte Kharas said: 

<<  How do you explain the fact that Karachi University does not now and never has offered a Ph.D. program in Persian Language and Literature and thus can never award a Doctorate in the same to any individual? >>

Charlotte, whether Karachi University offered a doctoral program in “Persian Language and Literature” is irrelevant. The question is:  Did Karachi University offer a doctoral program 50 or so years ago, when Dr. Jafarey obtained his degree (he is now 80) in which a student could major in Persian Literature.  It is up to the student to pick what kind of literature they want to do for their Doctorate.  As long as there is a Prof. who will accept the selection.       

Just as a person who, at the undergraduate or Masters level, majors in Medieval English Literature, would get a Bachelor of Arts degree (BA), or a Master of Arts Degree (MA) (although colloquially, a person would say, I have a Masters in Medieval English Lit.  thus combining the degree with the major).

Do you have definitive proof that in the period in question the University did not offer a doctorate program in which a student could select Persian Literature as a major?

Perhaps you have heard the old story that making a defamatory statement about a person is like loosening a bag full of feathers in the wind.  You have no way of controling how far the feathers have flown and to where.  If you are mistaken, how do you recall all those feathers?

Wishing us all the best, 

Dina G. McIntyre.

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zoroastrians

Dear Friends, 

Two of you have privately suggested to me (very diplomatically) that perhaps silence is the best response to the accusations about Dr. Jafarey’s degree.  I agree.  Several other folks on the other hand, have urged that silence is tantamount to an admission, and therefore the facts must be made public.

Dr. Jafarey has already proved that each and every one of the many and repeated accusations made against him over the past year, regarding his Zarathushtrian writings, are false, or distortions.   Question is: must he keep spending innumerable hours answering one false accusation after the other - a counterproductive use of time. Where does he draw the line. 

To me this latest accusation should not be dignified with a detailed factual response.  However, in deference to the surprisingly large number of decent folks who have asked that the facts be made known, I will tell you what Dr.  Jafarey has told me.  I have neither the time nor the inclination to dig up corroborative evidence thousands of miles away in Pakistan, or take the depositions under oath of responsible persons at the University of Karachi.

Dr. Jafarey was in the “Muslim College” which was, (or became) a part of the University of Karachi.  His dates of attendance were from 1947 through 1954.  He received a Bachelor of Arts, majoring in English, with Persian as a second language.  He received a Master of Arts in the same Major.  In 1954 he received from the University of Karachi a doctorate, majoring in Persian Language and Literature.  His Ph. D. dissertation was on the book Haji Baba Isfahani, and was regarding the conditions in Iran during the Qajar dynasty.  He got his Ph. D. under Professor Ghulam Sarvar Raja (who was then roughly 50 years old).  Prof. Ghulam Sarvar Raja retired in approx. 1975.  Dr. Jafarey does not know where he might presently be, or whether he is still alive.  Nor does he presently know the whereabouts of any of his other professors or classmates. 

On reflection, I realized to my surprise, that although I am not 80 years old, as Dr. Jafarey is, I also do not know the whereabouts of any of my Professors or classmates,  from college or from law school, other than those who currently practice law in the town where I live. And unlike Dr. Jafarey, I went to college and law school in the same town in which I still now live.

Getting back to Dr. Jafarey, in the days when he was at the Univ. of Karachi, the Shah was very liberal with grants and subsidies to centers of learning which agreed to allow students to select studies in Persian culture and arts.  Dr. Jafarey benefited from that policy, at the University of Karachi.  After receiving his doctorate, he worked as a translator in Teheran for an oil company and other customers. 

>From 1964 through 1980, he worked for the Ministry of Culture and Arts of the govt. of Iran.  It is not likely that he would have been given such a job, if he had misrepresented having a Ph. D in Persian Literature and Language.  As many people know, candidates for government jobs were given very thorough background checks in those days.  Such a background check would have been made by the govt of Iran (with Dr. Jafarey’s permission)  just 10 years after he received his doctorate and therefore would have been more reliable and susceptible of proof than a supposed search made 46 years later in response to a random (?) inquiry.

His first job with the Ministry of Culture and Arts of Iran was as head of Cultural Relations with Afro-Asian Countries.  As a part of his duties, all students studying for doctorates in Persian at the University of Teheran, were under his administrative jurisdiction (although they studied under their respective Profs. who had first level supervision over them).  It is not likely that such authority would have been given to someone who did not himself have a doctorate in Persian language and literature.  

Following that, he was assigned (still as an employee of the Ministry of Culture and Arts of the govt of Iran) to be the founding director of the Iran Pakistan Institute of Persian Studies, in Islamabad, promoting Persian culture in Pakistan and the Indian subcontinent, in which capacity he worked with at least 7 universities in Pakistan - the Universities of Karachi, Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore, Dacca, Chittagong, Sind-Hyderabad, Quetta, and Multan.  During his tenure, the Institute collected more than 8,000 Persian manuscripts, some of which were rare and believed to have been lost.  The Institute has not only published some of these manuscripts, but has printed a full catalogue of its rare library of manuscripts, in which Dr. Jafarey is acknowledged in print. 

Following that, he was appointed Advisor to the Minister (still in the Ministry of Culture and Arts of the govt. of Iran), and was Director General of the Iranian Center for Anthropology.  In 1980, after the Revolution, he was laid off.

As a Zarathushti convert from Islam he left Iran, following the Revolution, on very short notice, with just the clothes on his back.  He did not have time to take any memorabilia of college days, with him. If the University of Karachi truly no longer has a record of his degree, for whatever reason, how would he prove that he attended and received his degree at this late date?  Dr. Jafarey has been in the United States for approx. 20 years.  Why in all that time did his detractors do nothing?   Why have they waited till he is 80 years old, and all his Profs are retired and gone, to make this “public spirited inquiry”?

I have looked at the letter, supposed to have come from someone in the University indicating they have no record that he received a doctorate from the University.  This letter raises more questions than it answers.  For example:

Who made the inquiry to the University?  In what capacity and why?  It is against the law for a University to give out information regarding any person without that person’s written consent (except for law enforcement authorities with a search warrant).  Before knowing the outcome of their search, would the University have undertaken to search the 46 year old records of a potential student regarding his status, without his written consent?  Not likely.  How then was this “search” made?   Unofficially?  And if so, what other “unofficial” acts may have been done?

What questions were asked in the inquiry, that generated the response letter allegedly from the University?  To whom was the inquiry sent?  What records does the University still have going back 46+ years?  Has each student’s complete file been retained, for the past 46 years?  Or does the University just keep a rolodex or index cards of attendees? Are the records of doctoral candidates going back that far kept in a manner that renders the records tamper-proof?   Assuming the University still has the full records of every single student who attended the University going back that far, how and where does the University store its 46+ years worth of records of every single student. Are they in storage boxes in some warehouse?  If so how are they indexed for retrieval?  What retrieval system do they have to conduct searches? 

In Bankruptcy Court (W. Dist. PA) a few years after a case is closed, the records get shipped to a warehouse in Philadelphia.  Anyone wanting to examine an old file has to request the Clerk of the Court to have the file shipped from the warehouse.

In the case of Dr. Jafarey’s records, who had the authority to order and conduct such search?  What kind of a search was made of University records?  Was the search personally made by the person who supposedly wrote that letter for the University?  Or was it made by someone else?  And if by someone else, how would the person writing that letter know that the person making the search searched all pertinent boxes in whichever warehouse(s) such records are stored? Or did he simply report that he could not find anything.  If the records are stored by year, and if Dr. Jafarey attended from 1947 through 1954, they would have had to search seven years worth of records.  (Probably more as they would not have known his date of graduation).  How long did this search take?  Did the person writing that letter have authority from the University to do so?

The injustice inherent in this latest accusation that an 80 year old person lied about a degree received 47 years ago, because someone at the university wrote a letter saying that they could not find mention of it in their old records, must surely be apparent to all - especially to those of us who know how easily records can be unofficially mishandled in India and Pakistan.  All it takes is one willing employee, without the knowledge of responsible officers of the University, who might never even know that the “inquiry” had been made.

It is a mark of Dr. Jafarey’s integrity that he has never used the title “Dr.” in any of his Z publications because (according to him) he does not have a doctorate in Gathic, or Avestan or Zarathushtrian studies and he felt to use the title in his Z publications would give a false impression.  He did however study Avestan under Dr. Maneck Pithawalla, and he studied Gathic and Zarathushtrian studies under Dastur Dhalla, who studied under Jackson.  So his Z qualifications are respectable.

Each of us must decide for ourselves, whether or not we believe this latest accusation.  Under any standard of fairness, a person is innocent until proven guilty.  I have seen no credible proof of guilt.  But what really bothers me is the shabbiness of the process.

Wishing us all the best,

Dina G. McIntyre.

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Thought-provoking Comments
by
Mr. Zal Dabhoiwala 

Subj:  Re: [zoroastrians] Quest for Truth
Date: 12/4/2000 5:40:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: zdabhoiwala@compuserve.com (zal dabhoiwala)
Sender: zdabhoiwala@compuserve.com (zal dabhoiwala)
To: zoroastrians@listbot.com (zoroastrians) 

zoroastrians 

Message text written by “Yazdi and Charlotte Kharas” 

>>5. The truth is simple. Mister Jafarey CAN NOT have a Ph.D. degree from the University of Karachi, since it DOES NOT even have a doctorate program in Persian, and has NEVER issued any Ph.D.s in Persian, neither to Mister Jafarey nor to anyone else. That is a fact.<< where is the proof for that fact? it is not on the website quoted below. i am eager to see some proof, from whichever “side” it may come. i do believe it is up to the accuser to make a case, after all even on the ‘net people are still innocent until the opposite is proven.

>>8. <snip>... since he should now suddenly not care “to dignify this latest attack with a response”, is merely further proof that he is unable to produce evidence that he has a Ph.D. << what wonderful logic! does that mean my point of view prevaled over charlotte’s in a conversation we were having some time ago, just because the discussion did not continue? if that is really the case, winning an argument would only mean having the last word! 

>>I urge you to revisit the web site at http://frontpage.netropolis.net/scottcom/ and review the evidence presented.<<

 1. who is presenting this evidence?? it is quite clear who the accused is, but who is/are the accusers? given the long history of this soapopera, knowing who is related to whom is not unimportant.

 2. the evidence is a copy of a fax allegedly sent by the university of karachi to a person or persons unknown. the fax refers to a request having been made, what that request was remains unclear as there is no sign of the original request. not much to go on then. if the question is unknown, the answer is worth nothing (hmm, an idea for a gameshow?!)

 3. an email was sent to mr jafarey by mr birdy with a tmza letterhead. if mr jafarey’s response did not meet certain criteria the information from the university of karachi would probably be made public at some point in time. mr birdy’s email contained a rather strange sentence: “we have recently come into possesion of a letter from the university of karachi...”. this either means “they” asked a specific question and received a specific reply, but are trying to hide that, or somebody else asked a specific question and the answer somehow ended up in “their” hands.  whichever is the case, i for one would love to know the specific question.

 4. mr jafarey’s response, sent the very next day, is described as “...terse and devious, neither confirming nor denying the allegation...”. obviously interpretations vary. after all, if they didn’t these discussions wouldn’t be taking place. the “terse” i can understand, the answer is short and to the point as an e-mail should be (so apologies for this one!). “neither confirming nor denying” is in my view wholly accurate and needs no explanation. the “devious” bit has me concerned though. i had to look it up in the dictionary to see if the meaning had suddenly changed. “cunning” i would have understood, “clever” could have been another description. the way i read the messages mr birdy told mr jafarey: “if you don’t do A, i will do B” to which mr jafarey replied: “please go ahead and do B”.

 5. the next item on the website is a copy of a letter to the president of fezana outlining the charges made against mr jafarey. evidence that the accusers mean business, but hardly proof of guilt of the accused.

 6.  mr patel’s response stating that the matter is not one for fezana is neither proof of guilt nor vindication for the accused. it is merely a statement that the case has been brought before the wrong court.

 7. the evidence then proceeds to list various instances where mr jafarey has made reference to his ph.d. i have not taken the trouble to read them all as i believe these statements were probably made and are probably a bit harder to quote out of context than passages about, for instance, prostitutes and temples.

 8. the next part of the website is confusingly named “counter-evidence”.  expecting to see mr jafarey’s side of the story, i was surprised to see that the counter evidence was actually the evidence of the prosecution. a slip of the keyboard perhaps?

 8a. the first letter is the fax mentioned in point 2.

 8b. the second fax is one again allegedly sent by the university of karachi to a person or persons unknown, again referring to an unknown correspondence on 6 september. again, an answer that is of no use without the question (i am really beginning to like this idea for a gameshow!) 8c. the next letter is one dated 5 february 1995 (!!). it took “them” 5 years to read it, or else such serious accusations would have been made much sooner. perhaps they were and i just don’t know about them. five years ago i had not heard of mr jafarey, this alias or anything remotely to do with either. it does seem a bit odd that such a letter would not surface earlier. here too, the same problem arises as with the other correspondence from karachi: the reply is shown, but there is no hint of the question.  8d. the journal of ancient iranian studies names mr jafarey “mr ali akbar jafary” and not as “dr ali akbar jafarey”. if he did have a ph.d why the ommision? i have no answer for that. i would not however base my case on the ommission of a title, especially if the gentleman’s name is not even spelled correctly. so far, this is the only piece of “evidence” that might make the accusation believable. it is a pity the copy is obviously from two different pages so there is no way of being certain the two pages are actually from the same publication.

 8e. the 2000 website of the university of karachi (persian department) does not show a ph.d. course in persian; the website is up to date; if the website is up to date and shows no ph.d programme in persian then nobody could ever have received a ph.d. in persian languages & literature. q.e.d.  quite simple really if you put your mind to it.

 9. the “possible reasons” need no comment. none that is, except a fleeting mention of repsonse a to reason 2: “Can any proof be produced that such a bribe was given, and when, and by whom?  With out such proof, this claim is worthless” (“A certain individual paid the University of Karachi $50,000 to expunge the record of Ali Jafarey.”). an answer that should be read carefully by the accusers! (emphasis by Jafarey)

10. the final part of the “evidence website” is titled “general discussion”, but is more along the lines of a head-i-win-tails-you-lose question. there is no discussion of innocence or guilt, there is no discussion full stop. the question, remember answer only “yes” or “no”, could well have been “do you still beat your wife?”. the answer to the general discussion question is obviously “no”, however the question that needs to be answered first is “do we need to ask the question?”. until conclusive proof has been given that the accusation is true the answer to that question is “no” as well. 

wishing everybody the best,

zal dabhoiwala

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From: “zal dabhoiwala” <zdabhoiwala@compuserve.com>
To:  “zoroastrians” <zoroastrians@listbot.com>
Subject: [zoroastrians] twists, turns & bends lead back to: Quest for Truth
Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:53 AM 

zoroastrians 

Dear Charlotte, 

(deleted) 

Now that the literary side of the matter has been dealt with, we can get back to the factual side of the matter. As I pointed out it in my detailed examination of the website “http://frontpage.netropolis.net/scottcom/”, the site raises more questions for me than it answers. Since you prefer “short & sweet” I will just state my questions and wait for the answers. I don’t know why you would prefer it this way, as it does not give you any leeway to ignore the issue at hand. 

1.  Who is the person/are the people who have set up the website “http://frontpage.netropolis.net/scottcom”?

2. Who is the person/are the people who sent the request that is mentioned in the fax from the University of Karachi?

 3. What was that request?  

4. Why were there no copies of the request put on the website?

 5. Why is a letter dated 5 February 1995 deemed suitable to use in 2000 and not in 1995?

 I look forward to your replies to these last five questions.

Wishing you all the best,

Zal

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Ms. Freany Jungalwalla

From: "Freany J. Jungalwalla" <freanyj@melbpc.org.au>
To: "zoroastrians" <zoroastrians@listbot.com>
Subject: [zoroastrians] Between a Rock & a Hard Place
Date: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 3:19 PM

zoroastrians

Dear Dina,

I do believe it was unnecessary to dignify with an answer the nasty, vilifying, unsubstantiated public accusations, made WITHOUT QUALIFIED AND CERTIFIED EVIDENCE. A you say "The letter raises more questions than it answers." Such an UN-ZOROASTRIAN witch-hunt is extremely lamentable and shameful. 

By voting for "Inclusion" we expressed a clear mandate that WE wanted to hear WHAT Dr. Jaffrey has to say. What matter whether he has a Ph.D or not ! He hasn't claimed to have one it Z'ism. The so called "proof" that he lied is not qualified evidence, and is therefore not acceptable. It never was even when it first appeared!! However, the trouble you have taken over your researched and detailed expose of his Curriculum Vite has more than vindicated Dr.J. Well done Dina, for you and for Dr. J.

IF the matter of his Ph.D is a lie - which it was not - why haven't other speakers been checked out for their qualifications. Dr.Somebody-or- Other might speak at the Conference, but have a doctorate in Engineering or Equestrian Studies, or even Embroidery. There seems to be no limit to the petty mindedness on this list. Could it be borne of plain ignorance of academic protocol and styles of address. 

'The first stone' has been cast without evidence. An innocent person (no matter who it is) has been vilified as a lier - no small accusation, without airtight evidence - there is a word for this !!! Who will cast the next stone, specifically on the matter of his "lying about his Ph.D". It will have to be one amongst us who has never lied about anything, even if it does not purport to speaking at the Conference. For this is the context in which Dr. J. has been falsely accused. Dina, you have now provided enough evidence that Dr. J has not lied in this matter, though I do not see it was necessary. 

Before anyone out there thinks I am a friend or follower of Dr. J. I have never seen or corresponded with the gentleman, never heard of him before I subscribed to the Z-List. I have been instigated to read his postings following the witch-hunt, and was pleasantly surprised to find them interesting, informative, rational and convincing. I do not accept or believe everything he says. Moreover, with all the brick bats constantly aimed at him, I find his silence loud in its dignity. I have thus far only been a spectator in this farcical drama. 

I was about to Un-subscribe from the Z-List. I find most of the exchanges (not all) wantonly unkind and rude in their style and content. Such a practice is not conducive to a dialogue or exchange of ideas. One is not enhanced in any way by reading such exchanges. You cannot tell what it is going to be like till you have read it, by the end of which one is irritated and frustrated for having wasted all that time !!!! 

To Un-subscribe or Not, that is the question.
A much saddened and exasperated Zarthosti
subscriber on the Z-List.

Freany Jungalwalla

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LINKS:

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TABLE OF CONTENTS  and Their Links 

Foreword  

Introduction & the Gist of "The Plain Reality Behind The Intricate Falsity"

  Analysis of the 26-page "Global Protest"